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| Mech_Warrior | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.19 PM | Message # 31 |
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| Mech_Warrior
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GamersEdge30
So let's start with a story; the story of how the IP Addresses of Mech_Warrior and Demonlord5000 became IP banned on GamersEdge30. So approximately 2 days ago, Demon and I decided to play a public game on GamersEdge30. We joined the game and found SirZeel along with some of his premade buddies in the lobby. Oh well, what the heck, we thought. It might be a good game, and we decided to play. We were therefore surprised when SirZeel decided to kick both of us from the lobby. We may have never got along well with certain Edge admins, but we were content to live and let live, and play with them when needed. This outright act of hostility surprised us, and we rejoined the game to try to ask what was going on... only to be kicked again before we can type. I whispered SirZeel and got the response that demon and I "ruin the game with our gameplay" and he wanted us not to play against him. The whole episode was annoying, but not altogether unexpected, I suppose. We waited until the next game, content to avoid SirZeel, and moved on with our lives.
Fast forward to today. Demon and I, along with a shaman (Posajerd) joined a public game with SirZeel and Crim on the other team. We didn't know whether he'd kick us in the lobby, but decided to wait and give him the chance to let us play. As it turns out, he did not kick us in the lobby. Instead, he kicked us in the first 30 seconds of the game itself, thus completely ruining the game and forcing us to abort the game that we could have played. Fed up with being kicked by arguably abusive moderators on GamersEdge30, demon and I decide to make alternate accounts and just avoid the conflict. In our second round of games, we ran into SirZeel again, and again the game started. In the first 5 minutes, SirZeel (who probably looked up our IPs or something) realized who we were, and told us that we had to leave the game immediately, or we'd be IP banned. I asked him what we had done to deserve a ban, and told him that we wouldn't leave until he gave a valid reason. He promptly banned us, and kicked us from the game. Upon visiting our channel after the game, he told us "You're like the worst arrogant players I ever met and you're making everyone not enjoying the game (sic) with your gameplay, that's why." I asked him if it was banable to be "Bad, arrogant players," to which he responded "YOU are bannable now (sic)."
I therefore appeal my ban on the grounds that a player being banned simply because his/her gameplay is not what admins think it should be does not fall under any of your posted rules/guidelines, and 'arrogance' is a subjective standard. I will be the first to admit that I'm not always nice in public games; I have even, in the past, been arrogant at times, and I have engaged in flamewars with people that I believed were incorrect about some insignificant fact or another. However, today, I did none of those things. I was perfectly content to talk in Ally chat, and keep my peace; SirZeel banned me simply for daring to play in a game with him.
I appeal this directly to you, Boowoo, because I have some experience with you, and I know that you are a reasonable person and a good admin: Please unban demonlord5000 and myself. We did nothing against the stated rules of the bot, and we ask only to play on GamersEdge30.
P.S. I have screenshots and replays to back this up, as well as a host of witnesses. (You might also be interested to know that SirZeel claims "I'm an admin, I can IP ban anyone that I want to." This reflects a mindset of SirZeel that I believe is unbecoming of a moderator of any kind. But of course, that call is up to you guys at Clan Edge.)
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| dethoroc | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.29 PM | Message # 32 |
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| na its only a last reply video so i dont think i can send it
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You can also email it to me. boowoo2011@gmail.com
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| clickhead | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.29 PM | Message # 33 |
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| Do we need any on the Europe server?
Message edited by clickhead - Sunday, 12/Jun/2011, 10.39.12 PM |
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| RagingRaven | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.29 PM | Message # 34 |
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| Don't worry I was on their team and luckily our whole team got op chars.
Added (05/Jun/2011, 2.41.02 PM)
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When I go to the channel Clan GE Urahara asks me to join clan GEX. Should I join?
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Yes if you haven't joined. ~boowoo
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| K07TheBest | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.29 PM | Message # 35 |
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| Ya i was on the channel and he told me about it, then i joined the game and warned both of em " You guys should stop that or u will get banned "
they didnt care about it, and also said " go ahead, ban us, we dont care "
well i didnt take any screenshot.. coz the game started real quickly, and i left after it started...
I hope anyone can do something about that.. coz i dont have admin..
Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ.
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| boowoo | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.29 PM | Message # 36 |
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Group: Deputy Gamer's Edge Chieftain
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| Weiss or Legacy, can one of u invite no.shadow? I invited him to the clan and he's on Europe.
~boowoo
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| Weiss | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.29 PM | Message # 37 |
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Group: Removed
| All request approved, SexyMakar's ban expired after 7 days.
Troop blocking ban = Forever
the final 3 bans will last 60 days
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| Fallrim | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.29 PM | Message # 38 |
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| http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4HT8PE2J
theres my proof and ty k07 
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| SirZeel | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.29 PM | Message # 39 |
 Ex Gamer's Edge Shaman & GE Founder (Forum)
Group: Gamer's Edge Bot Admins
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| You are.
So funny.
I could just delete this post and the whole delirum that you're ranting out. But I will not, because I have nothing to hide.
You are a bad player. Not a newbie [who I respect because they just don't know how to play. We all were newbies, it's not a fault], not a unexpert. Bad player. Why are you a bad player? Because your way to play, you gameplay, is voted to ruin the whole experience of Hero Wars. You don't play to win or to enjoy a game, you just play to ruin others' game. Making a game last 2 hours doesn't make it a good game. Besides a long game means high probability of leavers [we don't live to play HW, we have a social life], it just make the game being a work. No one likes long games and you're the one who makes game last to eternity also if there's no need.
If you see you're unable to catch the victory, you don't even try it. You just tower a lot, build 1000 handymen and make the game last 30 more mins just hoping the opponents will leave.
Satisfied?
Message edited by SirZeel - Wednesday, 03/Oct/2012, 10.07.58 AM |
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| boowoo | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.39 PM | Message # 40 |
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Group: Deputy Gamer's Edge Chieftain
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| Quote (BvO) Whole threads go to the Dumpsite. So, where do individual posts go?
In the past, I believe some of the admins deleted the non related replies. Weiss has created the Dumpsite. From here on, I will remove the non-related replies to the Dumpsite. This reply will be here for a couple days and I will move to the Dumpsite.
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| BvO | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.39 PM | Message # 41 |
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Ex Gamer's Edge Shaman
Group: Gamer's Edge Peons
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| I've noticed that those two have been getting very hostile since I've been away from BvO games.
These two, especially Mugetsu_, tend to base kill, yell a lot, and ruin games.
Just some words of a BvO addict 0.o
This report would probabably go under the link on the first post, but the main problem is the lack of Screen Shot (evidence) so it might become a "reporting of bad player" rather than "ban request"
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Edit: Noooo.... I have mixed feelings since I those 2 are good Bleach v One Piece players so I'll lose a good challenge (though I have won the latest game against them :D)
But then again, I know that they, especially Mugetsu_, tends to base/item kill leavers. I don't mind much since I enjoy shoving tanking items into leavers, but I know many other people aren't rich enough to do that so they game might end just because Mugetsu_ is losing so he goes to kill leavers :/
Other people might do this too but I know that these two are at least frequent item killers when I'm in a game with them.
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ATTENTION Okay, now that I clearly have your attention, I'd like to ask about the ban length of those 2. Since it is their first offense (maybe) Is it a time ban? Ideally, I hope that a time ban calms them down (they play BvO daily so he might reflect on their actions since they lost their favorite past time... or they might just rage worse with they chance given after ban is gone :/) and when they return, I'd like to still fight them since they can put up a good fight together
Message edited by BvO - Thursday, 23/Jun/2011, 6.16.02 AM |
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| Weiss | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.39 PM | Message # 42 |
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| I will soon but u know the clan is gonna disband on Europe if Leg4cy won't come on within 40 days
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| BvO | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.39 PM | Message # 43 |
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Ex Gamer's Edge Shaman
Group: Gamer's Edge Peons
Messages: 34
Status: Offline
| Currently, there is 2 ban request Thread (this and the one in Help/Reports)
One should be closed probably since both isn't needed
Also, I when I tested attaching replays, files larger than 500k didn't work. I'm not sure if this applied to your situation Okay, it didn't
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DONE. Closed the other thread and moved the replies to this thread
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| boowoo | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.39 PM | Message # 44 |
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Gamer's Edge Shaman
Group: Deputy Gamer's Edge Chieftain
Messages: 47
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| I hate to be the middle man when it comes to conflict and drama but I guess it comes with the job description. So here's my take after reading and receiving the screenshot and replay. I will be reasonable as usual (i think LOL). I'll throw in my opinion and vote but I still think K07 has the final say on everything not only because he's the chieftan of the clan but also he's the sole provider of all the current bots that EDGE hosts.
1. I did check the bot on GE30 and Mech and Demon isn't banned. So request that Mech, Demon and friends forgive Sirzeel for what has happened and game on.
2. As in Sirzeel's case, I understand that MOST MNM members are not in good standing among the EDGE bot and I think that adds to the factor of why things happened the way they did. However that's not enough of a reason to ban them from playing our bots. Even though I'm still a newb somewhat in HWR, I do enjoy playing with or against a lot of MNM members. Although I mostly play DotA now. But that's besides the point. Based on the proofs that I got, I think Sirzeel was a little too rough on Mech and MNM. If Sirzeel did not want to play against or with MNM, he can simply kick them but I would request the courtesy of letting them know that he doesn't enjoy Mech's "arrogant" game style and flat out tell Mech that Mech will need to join the next game. If Mech retaliates, then that's a different story, Sirzeel then has every right to ban Mech in my mind. However, in this case, Sirzeel did let the game start then kick them from the game. Two possible reasons for this. One reason is Sirzeel was AFK and didn't know that Mech was in the game. If this is the case, I would say that Sirzeel owes Mech an appology. Mech on the other hand should accept the appology and let things go and everyone will be on their way to their game. (I hope) The other reason is if Sirzeel really want to fuck with Mech and let the game starts then kicks Mech just to piss him off. I highly doubt that this is the case and I sure hope this is not the case because if it is, I will agree that Sirzeel is abusing his admin power in my mind Sirzeel not only owe MNM an appology but also EDGE the appology.
As for Mech's last statement, I don't want to be defensive for Sirzeel but I think and hope that's just bluffing. He hasn't banned much yet according to record and I haven't seen anything over doing yet until this appeal. I do thank you for posting the info as it will come in handy if something ever come up. And I do agree and will add on to it that it is a mindset that no one but the bot owner himself can have.
So there's my two sense. More than two sense I guess. I will notify K07 also so that he's in the loop and if he makes any decision, I will accept it. I may not like it but I will accept it. yeah yeah I know some of you are reading this and say that I'm an ass kisser. I've heard that many times. I'm proud of what I do, and I don't give a fuck what you think. LOL He's the bot owner. He has rights to do whatever he wants on his own bots. We all are playing off of his bot so better give him the respect. Killemall had the same respect when he owned the old bots and still have my respect even though he's not even playing anymore.
Signing off and back to more DotA...Added (03/Oct/2012, 10.39.24 AM)
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Shit when I started replying to this post, Sirzeel didn't even post his yet. Took me 35 minutes to write a reply. ROFL. 1 finger poking much? LOL.
Sirzeel, I believe that is how you feel about his game play. And many others may be in the same boat as you but not everyone else. I know K07 hates his opponents having 1000 handies. But I myself do not give a damn. It's part of the game and I do find it more challenging to try and try to figure out a way to beat it.
But that's not enough of a reason to ban anyone. I'm not saying that you did because I checked their names and they were not banned. Added (04/Oct/2012, 5.32.20 PM)
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I disagree with the reason for banning Mech. Therefore I will unban the "browniebites7". K07 if you read this post and decides to re-ban Mech, it is up to you. I just think that there's enough proof to believe that Sirzeel was too hard on Mech.
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| Weiss | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.49 PM | Message # 45 |
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Group: Removed
| I would like Print Screens or Replays.
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