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| boowoo | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.49 PM | Message # 46 |
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| ap-sizzle2, K07TheBest, & BvO, I have posted Mugetsu_ and trogdorburnin8r on the Ban on Sight list. As soon as the admin for GamersEdge sees that and sees them, they should ban them. As far as when, I have no idea. I can't ban because I'm only admin on GE6 on West. Maybe perhaps you guys can recommend me more power to Weiss and I might be able to help out with these situations. I know Weiss is very busy and can't handle them all. I'm willing to help but I need the access.
Posting on the Ban on Sight list is all I can do within my power at the moment.
~boowoo
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| noshadow | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.49 PM | Message # 47 |
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| In that case its probably the best if we wait for Legacy.
Otherwise the invite is kinda useless.
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| Weiss | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.49 PM | Message # 48 |
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| Done
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| Fallrim | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.49 PM | Message # 49 |
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| no it didnt it just said that mine was in an illegal format
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| Mech_Warrior | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.49 PM | Message # 50 |
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| Quote (SirZeel) You are.
So funny.
I could just delete this post and the whole delirum that you're ranting out. But I will not, because I have nothing to hide.
Uh, okay. Thank you for not deleting the post (I guess?).
Quote (SirZeel) You are a bad player. Not a newbie [who I respect because they just don't know how to play. We all were newbies, it's not a fault], not a unexpert. Bad player. Why are you a bad player? Because your way to play, you gameplay, is voted to ruin the whole experience of Hero Wars. You don't play to win or to enjoy a game, you just play to ruin others' game. Making a game last 2 hours doesn't make it a good game. Besides a long game means high probability of leavers [we don't live to play HW, we have a social life], it just make the game being a work. No one likes long games and you're the one who makes game last to eternity also if there's no need.
If you see you're unable to catch the victory, you don't even try it. You just tower a lot, build 1000 handymen and make the game last 30 more mins just hoping the opponents will leave.
Okay, so, first, ignoring the random personal attack, I simply have to point out the irony here. You act as though my play style has been "voted" to be equivalent to game ruining. Actually, I hate to break this to you, but most of the Hero Wars community plays on RoC, and they would probably vote your play style to be equivalent to game ruining (from what I've seen of your "play style" it mostly involves either losing legitimately, which I respect, or massing Bomb Squads + Waves and smashing pubs in imba Ice 2.20, which nobody respects who plays the game competitively).
Secondly, as far as the "spam defense" accusation, it's true, but only to an extent. Let me break it down for you, SirZeel. (Prepare for a wall of text explanation.) You see, in most competitive custom games on wc3 that involve a Hero, the goal is either specifically to kill heroes (hero arenas), or is a necessary component in order to win the game (AoS games). What makes Hero Wars different is that you can (and primarily DO) win the game by a strategy that in other games would be equivalent to "Back door winning" (as it is called in DotA). At the very initial stages of the development of a Hero Wars community, jumpyg realized this. This is why he made killing the "Farm" the objective, rather than killing every enemy tower, or every hero on the map x number of times.
Let's keep in mind, though, that heroes are the primary means to do this, and that many of the heroes are very, very good (arguably too much so) at doing it. In response, some heroes were made who were very, very good at defending against these heroes as well. What quickly began happening in games is that these "imba" offense/defense heroes were the only viable picks. What that led to was the Hero Wars mentality of "Random Only" or "All Random" being the only legit way to play. What does this mean for the gameplay? It means that we now have a scenario in which we are hoping to balance out the heroes in the game via random picking mechanics. This is fine, and works most of the time fairly well. But what it also means is that you cannot choose your team's hero picks (which is true in almost every competitive game), and therefore you need to be able to do both important roles, defending and attacking, depending on what hero matchup you are given in any given game.
So let's say I am in a game that I consider to be a challenge, and I'm given Meleek, while my allies have Ancient Treant and Priestess of the Moon. Let's further say that the enemy team has Voidwalker and two generic meh heroes. You bet I'm gonna spam defense. I'll tome Strength to survive duels, get as many handymen as is necessary, and try a variety of means (purchased spells, item block, priests, sups) to stop Voidwalker. And I'll continue to do so until one team wins or the other. But note an important distinction. I am not doing it to "stall the game indefinitely" as you say, and thus ruin the game. I am doing so because I, as the defending hero, need to give my offense enough time to overcome the enemy Altar. If we limit the amount of defense that I build out of some twisted sense of moral obligation to keep the game short, Voidwalker will win. All the time. 100%. Because he is the better attacker hero, and in competitive games, there will be nothing I can do against him at a certain point, if I'm restricted to a "4 handyman cap" or something. Yes, it will keep the game short. It will also ensure that whoever has the better heroes wins, every time, with very few exceptions.
This is why I play the way I do. And by the way, you can watch replays of our inhouse games if you want (which are very competitive, and often very good games). The average time is 50-65 minutes for a Hero Wars competitive 2v2/3v3, even with a dedicated defender doing everything (s)he can to stop the other team. Very few last longer, and even fewer last shorter. But one interesting thing you'll also find is that the "best" heroes do not always win. In fact, a game often, instead, comes down to an intense exchange where one defender messes up, or one attacker makes a nice move, and the game ends just like that, with very little warning. This is the way competitive Hero Wars is played on RoC, and it's the way I intend to (attempt to) play competitive Hero Wars among my clan, and among my online HW community.
If you don't like it and want to stick to quick 20 minute pub smashes, that's honestly fine. I have nothing against that. Those can be fun in a different way as well. I just was unaware that you were totally opposed to playing competitively in the public GE30 bot; now I know, and I will avoid you so as not to draw unnecessary conflict. And that's honestly fine with me too. So I'll make you a deal, SirZeel: If I see a game with you and your premades in it, from now on, I will just leave. But in return, don't ban me for things that are not banable per your Clan Edge guidelines for GE30. Do we have a deal?
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| Lunar_eclipse | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.59 PM | Message # 51 |
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| User Requesting Ban: Lunar_Eclipse
User deserving the ban: Wolffire11
Realm: East
Bot: Gamersedge6 [angel arena]
Reason: Abuse of kick, insulting (kicked me because i was ahead of him by a lot)
Proof: Ask 13lackra1n and i got screenshot coming up in a bit
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Please send screenshot asap. As soon as I see some proof, I will put it on the "Ban on Sight" list since I'm only admin on West. ~boowoo
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| boowoo | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.59 PM | Message # 52 |
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| noshadow, check your PM.
Weiss has taken over Europe because Leg4cy is on an excused leave due to personal reason.
Contact either Weiss, Boowoo, or Clickhead when you see them on and you will be invited to the clan.
Tell them that boowoo have accepted your application to join the clan.
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| K07TheBest | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.48.59 PM | Message # 53 |
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| @Mech: This is not a Chat, you're supposed to tell your side of the story and wait for our decision.
@Sirzeel.... You're not supposed to insult anyone on the forums, Show some respect
This is quite simple, If the reason mech and demon got banned was based on their " Game Style ", They will be unbanned.
If it was any other reason, i wanna see the " reason " and boowoo and i will decide.
This goes to every ADMIN:
If you don't wanna play with a certain player...
1- If the player is already in the lobby, Leave and wait for next game. ( YOU CAN'T KICK/BAN if the guy is already in the lobby )
2- If you're in the lobby and that player joins, YOU HAVE the right to kick him, but before that remember to let him know that. ( REMEMBER, I SAID KICK, not ban. )
Back to the " Problem "
Whoever has the " proofs " or knows the game number, let me know and i will deal with this.
Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ.
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| K07TheBest | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.49.09 PM | Message # 54 |
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| @Replicate...
If you have Paint/PaintNET just open the screenshots on any of em then go on " File ", Then on " Save as " and choose JPGE...
If u dont have any of em.. i suggest you use http://imageshack.us/
or just upload em here.
Also, Im pretty sure hes not in the clan... i saw him on the channel today and he wasnt... idk if he joined.
Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ.
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| Fallrim | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.49.09 PM | Message # 55 |
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| -I have read the Joining Clan EDGE post
-I have an account at the forums
-I am able to log on bnet at least twice a month
-I will be active on forums or on bnet
-I am able to speak understandable English
Optional:
-I cannot host games
-I Don't Know other people in the clan
-I Like to idle at the clan channel
-I like to post at forums
-I have good manners
-I have above average English skills
And as far as introducing myself my name is andrew and im ususally on wc at least 4 times a week for 1+ hours at a time ranging up to almost 6 some days
my in game name is fallrim and im applying for GE on east but i also have a fallrim account on all servers so any that u may need me in later i will gladly join
btw this is my first post and im rather new to forums but im a quick learner  i look forward to joining your ranks
Message edited by Fallrim - Tuesday, 12/Jul/2011, 1.22.07 PM |
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| boowoo | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.49.09 PM | Message # 56 |
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| K07, I will email you what I received.
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| BvO | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.49.19 PM | Message # 57 |
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| @Replicate also :D
If your screen shot is not on your clipboard anymore (which I doubt it is) and you didn't save your evidence, you could always go back to your WC3 folder>Screen Shot to retrieve old pictures. However, it is in TGA format and Paint cannot open that (at least for me).
I had to download a TGA converted which I have in my external hard drive... somewhere
Message edited by BvO - Wednesday, 22/Jun/2011, 3.31.36 PM |
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| boowoo | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.49.19 PM | Message # 58 |
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| Application accepted.
Have anyone invited you to the clan?
If not PM me.
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| K07TheBest | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.49.19 PM | Message # 59 |
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| I don't even need to see the replay, the screenshot is enough...
Idk what's going on with Sirzeel, but i will talk to him and check why he acted that way
boowoo already told me he unbanned mech, so lets keep it that way...
@Mech... sorry about that, im sure he was mad about something or going thru some problems, even so it doesn't justify what he did... i will make sure he understands what he did.
Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ.
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| toastedcookies | Date: Monday, 06/Jun/2011, 4.49.29 PM | Message # 60 |
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Group: Forum Members
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| Application For Membership
-I have read the Joining Clan EDGE post (check)
-I have an account at the forums (check - account name: toastedcookies)
-I am able to log on bnet at least twice a month (check - usually very active)
-I will be active on forums or on bnet (preferably both) (check "see above")
-I am able to speak understandable English (check)
Optional:
-I cannot host games
-I Know other people in the clan - I know SteelKnight, he was supposed to help me join but forgot and logged off
-I Don't Like to idle at the clan channel - I'm usually busy expanding my skills at Angel Arena, etc.
-I Like to post at forums - I like to give feedback and I catch on quickly by discussing topics with others.
-I have good manners - Born and raised in a Christian household lol.
-I have above average English skills - High School graduate, so I would say yes.
My name is Trevor (age 18), long time Blizzard fan/user. I've been playing WC3 ever since its release (2002) and naturally made the move over to WoW after some time. During that time I still played WC3 from time to time. I recently acquired a vast amount of spare time, since I graduated lol, and have been playing on Battle.net almost everyday. I am semi-pro at hero based games (Angel Arena, etc.), and most other games and I would like to become active in using bots.
Battle.net account: toastedcookies
Server: U.S. East
Thank you for your time and I hope I can meet your criteria.
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The reason you might have seen Steelknight offline is because he is on USWest while you are on USEast
Application accepted and welcome to the clan
~BvO
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